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iraq never had. a civil war in iraq never was never in a war for thirty years like afghanistan was there the post invasion. union has totally changed the landscape the political landscape and the ethnic lines last april of afghanistan. and the lessons learned from iraq is not going to apply to afghanistan people should really get down when there is no relevance whatsoever what afghanistan is going through right now. and of finally is there any chance that you think that a power handover could be delayed and how that would affect anti-american sentiment in the country. death is dead will be too late to be seen dead what one could take effect by dan on the other hand again i'm i'm stressing again dead if the policy of states and nato does not change that puts staff dance themselves in the driver's seat then things are going to be very hard right now america end of the policy makers in the beltway are the ones are making the decision how afghanistan should be around but the fact is that afghans should c
iraq never had. a civil war in iraq never was never in a war for thirty years like afghanistan was there the post invasion. union has totally changed the landscape the political landscape and the ethnic lines last april of afghanistan. and the lessons learned from iraq is not going to apply to afghanistan people should really get down when there is no relevance whatsoever what afghanistan is going through right now. and of finally is there any chance that you think that a power handover could...
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military budget into the world up there we go here on r t will start with attacks in iraq three separate of them on shiite mosques have left at least four people dead and sixty four injured in iraq's northern city of kut a cork of the blasts went off when people were leaving the mosques after friday prayers the first explosion killed four people the second one fired after police and rescue was rushed to the area wounding at least twenty four iraq remains volatile ever since the u.s. led invasion in two thousand and four. over four thousand a greek police staged a march in central athens angry of being forced to make cuts amid a dramatic rise in crime in suicides some stage hanging outside the finance ministry the police face pay cuts as the government tries to qualify for its next bell out payment for the new austerity program for two thousand and thirteen yet to be finalized but union leaders warn of violent social unrest to. a powerful earthquake has hit southwest china killing at least fifty and destroying it some twenty thousand homes rescue works are currently under way however the
military budget into the world up there we go here on r t will start with attacks in iraq three separate of them on shiite mosques have left at least four people dead and sixty four injured in iraq's northern city of kut a cork of the blasts went off when people were leaving the mosques after friday prayers the first explosion killed four people the second one fired after police and rescue was rushed to the area wounding at least twenty four iraq remains volatile ever since the u.s. led...
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iraq is no country which is and occupation not just by the usa but by iran as well fundamentalism is being spread. everywhere but now that the west is trying now even to work with the islamist movement in order to thwart any of the movements in these countries and i think syria definitely the people in syria are looking for the most. see i'm looking for change but at the present moment the west has moved from that goal into really fighting a civil war against the regime over a regime has a responsibility to protect the country to protect even if it's only interest and britain says it's only sending non lethal aid like medicine and generators to antigovernment fighters in syria but as it is laura smith explains fighters from britain are heading for the front line too. to most britons going about their everyday lives the war in syria seems worlds away but for a few it's a struggle they feel personally involved in as the u.k. government portrays president assad as an evil dictator there's evidence that britons are going to syria to fight for the opposition bumming an area m.p. khalid ma
iraq is no country which is and occupation not just by the usa but by iran as well fundamentalism is being spread. everywhere but now that the west is trying now even to work with the islamist movement in order to thwart any of the movements in these countries and i think syria definitely the people in syria are looking for the most. see i'm looking for change but at the present moment the west has moved from that goal into really fighting a civil war against the regime over a regime has a...
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war in iraq saverin afghanistan is winding down washington arguably has more freedom to act elsewhere could syria be the next target whoever gets it well interestingly president obama's point was that he and his basic campaign reelection themes on foreign policy side which aren't that significant for most voters are one end of the war in iraq two i am winding down the war in afghanistan and we are taking out al qaeda and he clearly is suggesting he's not in the market for new wars thank you. whether you would have a crisis that would compel u.s. intervention or not it's pretty clear that in syria all of the factors for at least the current administration in policy making say don't go their own. administration has been quite clear and holding back that's why it was ready to play in the arena of. act group plan to try to resolve the syrian crisis. peacefully and get some kind of deal they don't want to go there even indirectly militarily by providing military aid to the rebels they don't know who all these rebels are and they certainly are not prepared to go in for a military operation
war in iraq saverin afghanistan is winding down washington arguably has more freedom to act elsewhere could syria be the next target whoever gets it well interestingly president obama's point was that he and his basic campaign reelection themes on foreign policy side which aren't that significant for most voters are one end of the war in iraq two i am winding down the war in afghanistan and we are taking out al qaeda and he clearly is suggesting he's not in the market for new wars thank you....
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bite him even the ones he didn't start but which you argue are his buy now he pledged to withdraw from iraq and afghanistan he says that's what he doing in what way could they bite him well they could all fall apart. if the united states lost both of those wars even before obama assumed office but the imperative that obama faced which was also the imperative that george bush faced in his final years was not to lose face i'd like you to expend a little bit on afghanistan you argue that ghana stand in particular certainly into a face saving operation for the president how is he handling that. well to the extent that he can develop a consensus in the political class in the united states to get out as soon as possible which seems to be happening not particularly through his own initiatives he will get out but unless that develops he is going to happen is going to have to be a continued presence there of some sort which is going to continue to wreak murder and mayhem and not to achieve any of the official objectives that the united states put forward in entering into that conflict in the first p
bite him even the ones he didn't start but which you argue are his buy now he pledged to withdraw from iraq and afghanistan he says that's what he doing in what way could they bite him well they could all fall apart. if the united states lost both of those wars even before obama assumed office but the imperative that obama faced which was also the imperative that george bush faced in his final years was not to lose face i'd like you to expend a little bit on afghanistan you argue that ghana...
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fired us straight to attacks in iraq to kick off the r.t. world update now are three separate times on sheer will serve left at least four people dead and sixty two injured in iraq's northern city of cork and the blasts went off as worshippers left friday prayers for the worst was in the south of the city where an initial explosion killed four then a second bomber set off as police and rescuers arrived that one wounded at least twenty four. over four thousand greek police station a march in central athens angry being forced to make cuts amid a dramatic rise in crime and suicides some staged hanging is outside the finance ministry and the police face pay cuts as the government tries to qualify for us next to bare all out payment the new austerity program for two thousand and thirteen is yet to be finalized a union leaders warn of violent social unrest to come. and fresh from is a las vegas exploits prince harry is back in uniform and being deployed with his apache attack chopper for a four month tour in afghanistan and the prince was previous
fired us straight to attacks in iraq to kick off the r.t. world update now are three separate times on sheer will serve left at least four people dead and sixty two injured in iraq's northern city of cork and the blasts went off as worshippers left friday prayers for the worst was in the south of the city where an initial explosion killed four then a second bomber set off as police and rescuers arrived that one wounded at least twenty four. over four thousand greek police station a march in...
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or levon on iraq so the government will not be able to really know the. nation there's no real way of telling whether they're actually going to end up in syria there is no way to know. who when they enter syria who they'll be liaising with. their ideology is necessarily how the ologies and viewpoints might change in syria these are the scenes that could greet them on their return and see islamist organization the english defense league is unlikely to take further radicalization of british muslims lying down creating more bad feeling and deeper fissures in an already divided society pool western whose british freedom party is allied to the e.t.l. says militant groups are preparing for a confrontation we're going to get further and further into this horrible situation of them and us and them and then you have small scale violence that starts. the tit for tat and it's like you know i think we literally entering into a religious civil war scenario so far the government's given the syrian opposition eight million dollars for non-lethal equipment including comm
or levon on iraq so the government will not be able to really know the. nation there's no real way of telling whether they're actually going to end up in syria there is no way to know. who when they enter syria who they'll be liaising with. their ideology is necessarily how the ologies and viewpoints might change in syria these are the scenes that could greet them on their return and see islamist organization the english defense league is unlikely to take further radicalization of british...
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economics which we haven't is a fact you know what you are we there were weapons of mass destruction in iraq which there were not is a fact and you can go on and on so yeah there's context of some of these things but sometimes something is just not true and from drama in rowing that's when you had for most of this campaign when jump in well it went well i think context i mean the indeed this is a kind this is a very interesting example i mean cliff had been talking earlier that about the first night of the republican convention when they focused on the you didn't build that comment now the interesting thing is you look at the obama speech from which said comment was taken you know i mean i raised issues with the way some of the ads would cut the commodore clip it or fade in and not provide what i would say would be the full context and and what he was doing was kind of repeating a democratic talking point i'd documented it went all the way back to stuff that franklin roosevelt said however many republicans when they look at the comments by president obama it really rubs in the wrong way and
economics which we haven't is a fact you know what you are we there were weapons of mass destruction in iraq which there were not is a fact and you can go on and on so yeah there's context of some of these things but sometimes something is just not true and from drama in rowing that's when you had for most of this campaign when jump in well it went well i think context i mean the indeed this is a kind this is a very interesting example i mean cliff had been talking earlier that about the first...
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fortunate we've run out of time but if we're going to let her share your thoughts on this activist and iraq war veteran. thank you. now the u.s. has allegedly promised iran that it will not assist israel if the netanyahu government chooses to strike tehran's nuclear facilities the report in an israeli newspaper also claims the deal comes with a catch that the islamic state would not damage any american interests in any retaliatory strikes this comes as the obama administration says it's implementing measures it hopes will prevent an israeli attack on iran stephenson is professor of politics and international studies at the university of san francisco thanks war with iran will devastate both sides. i think there is a little weirdness. in the white house and elsewhere of the war with iran would be a disaster i mean even putting aside the moral concerns the legal concerns about such a flicked the word games and other scenarios you have been looking at all come out to the same conclusion the qassam badly outweighed the benefits and so the united states is concerned as they are about nuclear abo
fortunate we've run out of time but if we're going to let her share your thoughts on this activist and iraq war veteran. thank you. now the u.s. has allegedly promised iran that it will not assist israel if the netanyahu government chooses to strike tehran's nuclear facilities the report in an israeli newspaper also claims the deal comes with a catch that the islamic state would not damage any american interests in any retaliatory strikes this comes as the obama administration says it's...
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twenty minutes past the hour moscow time let's start with iraq now in the r.t. world update at least four separate attacks on shia mosques of left nine people dead and eighty injured in iraq's northern city of kut a cork of the blasts went off as worshippers left friday prayers by the worst was in the south of the city where an initial explosion killed four people two more bombs were set off as police and rescuers arrived in what appears to be a coordinated attack. over four thousand greek police station a march in central athens angry are being forced to make cuts amid a dramatic rise in crime and suicides at some stage hanging outside the finance ministry the police face as the government tries to qualify for us next to bail out payment or the new austerity program for two thousand and thirteen yet to be finalized but union leaders warn of violent social unrest to come. and the has ordered all of iran's diplomats out of the country and is closing its embassy in tehran ata were said it was acting because of the islamic state support for the syrian government it
twenty minutes past the hour moscow time let's start with iraq now in the r.t. world update at least four separate attacks on shia mosques of left nine people dead and eighty injured in iraq's northern city of kut a cork of the blasts went off as worshippers left friday prayers by the worst was in the south of the city where an initial explosion killed four people two more bombs were set off as police and rescuers arrived in what appears to be a coordinated attack. over four thousand greek...
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that were handpicked by dick cheney the same people the same war hawks who lied their way into iraq this same war hawks who wanted to gin up if you remember they the same people that mitt romney is surrounding himself with wanted to gin up a war in north korea they wanted to do the same in syria and iran so the romney team the people who run these surrounding himself with are basically the project for a new america a new american century folks and so right now the first time that mitt romney has really been had where they've really asked him about foreign policy is right now that's why he stuttered that's why he stammered because they've never asking tough questions and all of a sudden he's getting tough questions getting a sense in on the flip side of this like i'm getting a sense from the right especially watching fox i watch fox news last night for about an hour's. screw sheeting really painful but and again it's you know somebody's got a there's a certain giddiness scenes over this unrest in egypt and libya that it could give the republicans what they need to knock president oba
that were handpicked by dick cheney the same people the same war hawks who lied their way into iraq this same war hawks who wanted to gin up if you remember they the same people that mitt romney is surrounding himself with wanted to gin up a war in north korea they wanted to do the same in syria and iran so the romney team the people who run these surrounding himself with are basically the project for a new america a new american century folks and so right now the first time that mitt romney...
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that we hear all that we see all the time here in the states about how the wars in afghanistan and iraq are ramping down here still is going to be a considerable forward aggressive strategy around the world particularly in the middle. i think whether you're looking at a romney administration or on obama administration i wouldn't look for the united states to have a different foreign policy in any kind of substantive way under romney because of the two party trap for a reason you know there's two terrible choices it's a lot like sitting down to a restaurant where they offer two needles and they're both just terrible now the democrats have slammed mitt romney for his vehement rhetoric against china as the obama administration seeks to improve relations with beijing state secretary hillary clinton is in the chinese capital for talks but her visit comes amid some rising diplomatic tensions beijing is want washington to stay out of the country's territorial disputes with several other nations off the chinese coast communist state is threatening to use force to defend its claims to a chain of
that we hear all that we see all the time here in the states about how the wars in afghanistan and iraq are ramping down here still is going to be a considerable forward aggressive strategy around the world particularly in the middle. i think whether you're looking at a romney administration or on obama administration i wouldn't look for the united states to have a different foreign policy in any kind of substantive way under romney because of the two party trap for a reason you know there's...
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bringing any charges the cases involve the deaths of two suspects and the agency's detention facilities in iraq and afghanistan alison weir from the u.s. based think tank the counsel for the national interest says this decision will not pass unnoticed by the international community many of us feel that this is not the image that we are opposed to what went on and that there should be true justice and true pursuit of justice going on which we have not seen yet the cia destroying some of the tapes that in itself is a criminal action that that itself shouldn't been pursued. hopefully will be pursued something so the fact that there may be some difficulty in gathering evidence we don't know that's really the case that or part of the difficulty certainly is because important evidence was destroyed there are still people in in the united states as well as around the world who are outreach to what's going. on but this has been a you know this is still the george w. bush administration's activities being carried on by the obama administration actions as we all believe prosecutor on this john i've done
bringing any charges the cases involve the deaths of two suspects and the agency's detention facilities in iraq and afghanistan alison weir from the u.s. based think tank the counsel for the national interest says this decision will not pass unnoticed by the international community many of us feel that this is not the image that we are opposed to what went on and that there should be true justice and true pursuit of justice going on which we have not seen yet the cia destroying some of the...
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maintenance for thousands of drones the company makes involving foreign sales of drones to ghana stand iraq and unspecified african countries that's right because when i think of how best we can spend two hundred ninety seven million dollars an unspecified countries in africa i think drones now these are just a few of the contracts that i want to share with you that exemplify while the pentagon and d o d continue to pretend that they're being victimized by these looming budget cuts they keep spending huge amounts of money upgrading weapons systems setting killer drones to underdeveloped countries and making sure that weapons remain the united states number one export of the former defense secretary robert gates actually summed it up quite perfectly he said it's important to remember that every defense dollar spent to over insure against a remote or diminishing risk is a dollar not available to take care of our people. having recently. suffered. now having recently learned about the trap wire surveillance grid in legislation like the national defense authorization act of two thousand and twe
maintenance for thousands of drones the company makes involving foreign sales of drones to ghana stand iraq and unspecified african countries that's right because when i think of how best we can spend two hundred ninety seven million dollars an unspecified countries in africa i think drones now these are just a few of the contracts that i want to share with you that exemplify while the pentagon and d o d continue to pretend that they're being victimized by these looming budget cuts they keep...
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iraq. don't tell me how much harm. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realize everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm tom harpur welcome to the big picture. welcome to the true science technology innovation called the list of elements from around russia we've got the future covered. if you. still. want to. welcome back to crossfire i'm peter was about to mind you were talking about obama's speech. to. students. ok i'd like to go back to rob in new york rob how much is this campaign really about anxiety not about democrats and republicans but anxiety about the future it's a it's about anxiety to a tremendous extreme because the big question are we better off than we were four years ago that was if this to david axelrod yesterday and he said well auto workers are what we're talking about the country as a whole and it's also been a very mercurial economy where what it's good one day in the s
iraq. don't tell me how much harm. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realize everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm tom harpur welcome to the big picture. welcome to the true science technology innovation called the list of elements from around russia we've got the future covered. if you. still. want to. welcome back to crossfire i'm peter was about to mind you...
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also context to that but with all the huge revelation that came off that with the gun award i read the iraq war logs on the diplomatic cables to towards the end of the year twenty two and we saw the cooperation with the mainstream media we cooperated with almost one hundred media organization all over the world and it was a corporation. and had massive pre-sold so many thousands even if not tens of thousands of headlines and stories which made a difference it made a difference in the arab world it had a cuttle into effect in tunisia and egypt we all know that do you think that more whistleblowers are going to be hesitant on dealing with wiki leaks and julian assange right now now that the u.s. has officially declared. him and the organization as an enemy of the state it is quite possible that it will impact and to tour in some manner that is the obviously what is the into the intention of the obama administration it is to deter people from not just cooperating with we can loose but the mainstream media as will so this is a very serious question for the mainstream media which has to wake up
also context to that but with all the huge revelation that came off that with the gun award i read the iraq war logs on the diplomatic cables to towards the end of the year twenty two and we saw the cooperation with the mainstream media we cooperated with almost one hundred media organization all over the world and it was a corporation. and had massive pre-sold so many thousands even if not tens of thousands of headlines and stories which made a difference it made a difference in the arab world...
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iraq i mean you know last week he said that he would prefer romney and he would be opposed to obama being reelected but he wouldn't mind romney either confirm from the perspective of a progressive who was unhappy with the way bush handled foreign policy there hasn't been as clear of a departure from that policy as as most progress and so would like i don't we started out but it's not i'm telling you that you know romney's been advised by the same neo cons of push us into these wars but back to the question about differences on that we'll leave that up for debate but when it look when you look at health care policy when you look at education policy. there are significant differences that will affect the lives of millions if not tens of millions of americans all around the country hundreds of millions of them but health care policy you know we can sit here and say oh yes they're so different because on a stump speech at a tea party romney said something completely different to his entire life. i'm not buying that i'm not buying that there were many going to. yes by whitney as a politician a
iraq i mean you know last week he said that he would prefer romney and he would be opposed to obama being reelected but he wouldn't mind romney either confirm from the perspective of a progressive who was unhappy with the way bush handled foreign policy there hasn't been as clear of a departure from that policy as as most progress and so would like i don't we started out but it's not i'm telling you that you know romney's been advised by the same neo cons of push us into these wars but back to...
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iraq yugoslavia. liberia because we wanted to and we tried we took the risk i know that gap between governments often not communicate with each other they're all to communicate with each of us sometimes hostile relations with the humanitarian we operate with not based upon auguring sovereignty based upon auguring last august government relations it was a humanitarian plea that given that some good things are happening in the governmental leadership for example a building an educational system and it's free in the by the half women the being educated and that's a step in the right direction. the health care system that is that it is in a hospital and you see the growth of the hospitals and mental cinema is free the building on the on the oceanfront in the gum ball that is in fact this track that by the issue of killings in jail that was a holding up access to free press opening of ponding some prisoners and stop an execution is the right thing to do it's also a very practical benefits i think the presi
iraq yugoslavia. liberia because we wanted to and we tried we took the risk i know that gap between governments often not communicate with each other they're all to communicate with each of us sometimes hostile relations with the humanitarian we operate with not based upon auguring sovereignty based upon auguring last august government relations it was a humanitarian plea that given that some good things are happening in the governmental leadership for example a building an educational system...
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charges because he is concerned the deaths of two suspects at the agency's detention facilities in iraq and afghanistan u.s. based activist deborah sweet says there's not much chance of further legal action in the case despite strong evidence of abuse the world's population would have to hope that the cia the u.s. military and the u.s. government has not literally gotten away with murder again this possibly opens the door for international prosecution and findings that the u.s. indeed broke international law as many people around the world think it did and has repeatedly and this eleven year long war on terror people do die in war there are bodies here of men who were tortured frozen to death men who died with their hands over held over their heads chained in freezing temperatures who were beaten these are men who were killed by homicide not in war at the hands of the cia the obama administration which came in promising to put an end to torture can only find fit to prosecute whistleblowers. don't forget to log on to our web site for the latest news videos here's a taste of what's there
charges because he is concerned the deaths of two suspects at the agency's detention facilities in iraq and afghanistan u.s. based activist deborah sweet says there's not much chance of further legal action in the case despite strong evidence of abuse the world's population would have to hope that the cia the u.s. military and the u.s. government has not literally gotten away with murder again this possibly opens the door for international prosecution and findings that the u.s. indeed broke...
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iraq you're just consider this from iraqis one of the oldest civilizations on earth right the epic of gilgamesh the oldest known written piece of western literature is seven thousand five hundred years old in the entire history of that country iraq they had never ever had a suicide bomber until we occupied their nation. yes but they had internees in wars that killed hundreds of thousands of people who have more never had a suicide almost on a yearly basis they were at war with one another iraq and iran are with with them of the car we don't play in the mob for years each other will be whether we're going to vote so they said we have we grow lots of her we have it in the problem well we have a problem of occupation and we have a problem of religious intolerance one of the problems we can solve by pulling our troops out and coming home the other problem is going to be solved by a major conversation and the followers of islam are going to have to deal with the rest of the world all the other religions that is one point all the ability to do in this world that existed have changed their l
iraq you're just consider this from iraqis one of the oldest civilizations on earth right the epic of gilgamesh the oldest known written piece of western literature is seven thousand five hundred years old in the entire history of that country iraq they had never ever had a suicide bomber until we occupied their nation. yes but they had internees in wars that killed hundreds of thousands of people who have more never had a suicide almost on a yearly basis they were at war with one another iraq...
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claims he built it on his own but that i'm still a take i'll tell you what really happened at bain on iraq and the dark side of bailouts and sellouts in the united states of america. it's friday are you ready to joining me tonight for tonight's big picture rumble robinson deputy director of the paul revere project and contributor to human events the blaze the national review called williams attorney and progressive strategist and austin peterson director of production for freedom works great to have you all with us to see you all romney's big night of last night that the r. and c. and up to this point he's pretty much been very nonspecific about everything he's been talking in generalities and platitudes heroes may work but the center for american progress pointed out he made no mention of financial reform he made no mention of climate change you made no mention of immigration he made no mention of afghanistan or syria no mention of social security no mission of veterans which is kind of odd for a republican and of course no mention of romney care is he going to continue a content free cam
claims he built it on his own but that i'm still a take i'll tell you what really happened at bain on iraq and the dark side of bailouts and sellouts in the united states of america. it's friday are you ready to joining me tonight for tonight's big picture rumble robinson deputy director of the paul revere project and contributor to human events the blaze the national review called williams attorney and progressive strategist and austin peterson director of production for freedom works great to...
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we took our troops out of iraq without even getting is that it's a boys and women you're going to go i pat. iraq and yet need to pull the troops out regular out the pact the troops are out you definitely if you have not now what are you doing by that is telling our allies that kim broke with king's promotion of the rights apology tour a lot i aside president obama withdrew troops from iraq because he recognized it was time to end of the most on necessary war in american history and let's not forget iraqi officials our allies wanted u.s. troops to leave leaving iraq is not what caused last week's violence in the middle east and the very very ugly newsweek moving on from congressman king's outrageous comments to an outrageous magazine cover this week's edition of newsweek released today features a picture of muslims with a big bold title of mozilla brage after the attacks in benghazi last week we saw numerous images of libyans holding up signs in support of the united states and in support of what ambassador chris stevens was doing in the country in libya and that was no fluke despite
we took our troops out of iraq without even getting is that it's a boys and women you're going to go i pat. iraq and yet need to pull the troops out regular out the pact the troops are out you definitely if you have not now what are you doing by that is telling our allies that kim broke with king's promotion of the rights apology tour a lot i aside president obama withdrew troops from iraq because he recognized it was time to end of the most on necessary war in american history and let's not...